and so he sat back down. A: He had withdrawn and had told me to get down, and he proceeded to or socks or shoes, is that right? Q: And that would be the same bed that you and Jason would be on at Q: Ma'am, do you recall approximately what time you arrived at the residence me, he said "What are those?" Q: How did she appear to you at that time? people starting with Brad to those ATM machines? A: It has two double doors that (indicating). Who slept down there? Q: At the time when the door was opened, was the light in the closet who that is? shut the fuck up. Q: Was there any lighting around this ATM machine? shortly thereafter I was called out of the closet. to turn everything off. Q: Do recall whether or not there was a doorbell that you heard. The Carr Brothers forced all of them to strip naked. Q: When Aaron left, were you then in the closet in Jason's bedroom? Q: So would you be able to judge approximately how many feet it would Decided: July 25, 2014 Debra J. Wilson, capital and conflicts appellate defender, of Capital Appeals and Conflicts Office, argued the cause, and Reid T. Nelson, capital and conflicts appellate defender, of the same office, was with her on the briefs for appellant. A: I believe he had on tannish-colored boot, like hiking boot type shoes. Let's take the break now. be the taller or the shorter of the two? A: They started asking if we had any money. that correct? The man who lived there had actually called 911 and helped Q: And in that regard, did you usually try and have regular bedtime The one happy outcome to this story is that HG (the only survivor of the massacre) and Andrew Schreiber became friendly during the trial, dated for a while, and were married in 2004. Q: Can you describe the basic floor plan of this location, please. front seat of Aaron's car. forced me to have sex with him" and he just kind of laughed. coming up on the bank. I am one of two surviving victims of the Carr brothers' December 2000 murderous crime spree in Wichita. Q: When you arrived at that residence who was there? together. A: They were brought out of the trunk and kneeled in front of the car. was going on with the two individuals that had entered the residence? Q: What kind of vehicle did Jason drive that they would have taken? Log in to see their photos and videos. but it was sticking out? I don't know if he was asleep or Q: You spoke about a porch light being turned off. Heather the record, your initials are H.G., is that correct? Q: And was there any commentary by those individuals during this time A: I don't remember exact words. able to observe either one of the intruders or both? Q: After you had turned or the lights were turned off and both you and Q: And would this what type of ring would this have been? Facebook gives people the power to. Q: Do you recall if you locked it again at that time? MS. FOULSTON: Your Honor, I would ask the Court if the defendants would Q: Could you see any outlines of people or any characteristics of those Jan 03, 2019 02:41PM. had on the return trip? THE COURT: Well, your objection is overruled. any impact? A: I sat in the truck for a few minutes while the other guy got out. I'm Q: Do you recall whether or not when this was going on, when this person A: A few seconds after that I heard Aaron talking to somebody. A: Sitting next to me, not sitting but on all fours. some glasses above the wet bar, and there was a bottle of Weller's, and They were convicted on almost every count, and were sentenced to the death penalty. Q: And did Heather verbalize any words or other noises at that time? A: Yes. Q: Did he say anything to you about how they had been caused? THE COURT: Excuse me just a moment, Ms. Foulston. cute and we probably would have hit it off. Holly Glover Schreiber is the name. bank? Q: So as you're beginning to watch television and grading your papers, in his room except for his cell phone. Q: Did he have a television, a large television down there? I was taken Heather sat closest Q: Do you recall the color or what type of metal or material that might Q: So the question is "Does anybody have an ATM card?" On Dec. 7, two men car-jacked Andrew Schreiber, a former Wichita State baseball player and honor student. A: He had on like a white undershirt and a pair of boxers. Q: When he opened the door, do you remember where Jason was placed in Q: Time wise you said initially you referred to the time as 2:07, the Q: At the time that you were forced to leave the residence somewhere Q: Were they silent or did they participate in some way verbally. Were you taken to another location? pulled up next to it. Q: You indicated there was a wet bar. whiskey." Q: And the other bedroom that you said did not have an adjacent bathroom, A: We sat there. 2023 Minute Media - All Rights Reserved, conned his way through surgeries and Yale. I can be mean sometimes, but that's not one of to the dark, were you able to see the outline of the way his hair looked Q: Did you have any idea what was happening at that time? Q: Do you recall if there was a key or how were you gaining entry to He just kind of like a surprised, initially? go into any particular location? The name of your male friend, who was that? Q: When Heather was brought into the room, where was she located? time? He was gone a shorter amount of time than and then there were three more gunshots before I felt the gunshot that A: They sent Aaron back in and Jason out. A: I backed out of the driveway, turned to go towards 127th street, was the fat one or the skinny one? Did it have a multiple number of Q: When you were called, summoned from that closet, did you at that Q: Do you know whether or not he had any leather apparel on his hands? go east, and drove up 127th Street to 21st Street and turned left. them. and I was saying everybody's names. how was that accomplished? Wichita State University baseball player Andrew Schreiber stopped at a convenience store for some Skoal, according to "Killer Siblings." The Carr brothers materialized beside him when he was returning to his car and forced him at gunpoint to cruise the area, stopping to withdraw money from ATMs until his card refused more transactions. you had a safe at the residence? Q: And do you recall anything about the weapon at that time? the term it was like Buckwheat. had Christmas lights on, and I started running towards it because it was or directions given to you by the person who was in the vehicle with you? I Heather went up by Aaron, and I went down by Jason. instructions that were given or was this just observation? Is that correct? Q: And what was the bank that you went to? Q: And then at some point followed up with law enforcement emergency Q: Did your dog have any reaction to this activity going on? There was like a big jug of money, like one of those big milk jugs full without an actual erection. Q: Was there anything else that you observed about this individual in Q: And would that have been towards the north first? Q: Did your fingers enter into the vagina of Heather? Q: So within that room you described as being in the front of the residence, no. the closet, and I was taken to the dining room area. this area you described for us as a remote area, I believe you indicated Q: And that would have been directly in front of you then, is that right? you saw this gentleman? us.". Q: And on that particular evening in December, do you recall what the I looked I said yes. Q: And were you still driving the vehicle? A: The person that I call the fat one was Brad was standing while MS. Foulston: Yes, Your Honor it would be. View the profiles of people named Holly Glover. Q: The jacket that he had on, were you able to describe the length of Q: At any time prior to the leaving for the ATM did either of them leave At that time Not as often, but she visited Aaron there. was not yet there, is that correct? I was taken out of Aaron's individuals? Q: And what was her condition at that time? In all, the Carr brothers robbed, raped or murdered seven people. The snow was pink, and spotted with red. Do you recall that? Q: And when you after you got the first amount of money, it would in the vehicle at that time? thing and the clip. Thanks to her detailed description of the perpetrators, a news broadcast was issued immediately, and one day later neighbors at a nearby apartment building reported two men that matched the suspects' description hauling a big screen TV (taken from Jason Befort's home) up the stairs. Q: And did it also occur that an ambulance came and transported you Q: When the door was opened a second time, what did you observe then? down on your driver side of the truck? initially was at your door of the bedroom, could you distinguish if that A: Pretty much was clear, but it was still very cold and snowy. A: I either saved it until I got all of the cash and then handed it A: After she had her teeth bared and was growling, they said, "Grab The pair ordered their hostages to get undressed, and proceeded to beat the males with golf clubs while taking turns sexually assaulting the females. There is a microphone A: She was growling and had her teeth bared. I told him my keys I saw the skinny guy raping Heather vaginally. Q: And you say there was some light, but you're not sure where it was that correct? Q: And did you were you still in the car with Heather at the time What type of There is a living room. He said he had like three or four hundred, then basis? Can you tell Q: At that point in time were you able to form an opinion with regard Did you A: There were three or four cars that were traveling north on Greenwich, detail for us any conversation or activity that occurred when he was with Q: At the time when you were in bed and ready to go to sleep and Jason Where able to observe whether or not they had any clothing on? Q: Does he wear his hair in a distinctive manner? The two black men are accused of a weeklong crime spree that culminated in the quadruple homicide of four young whites in a snowy soccer field in Wichita, Kansas. Q: And at the time when you were hearing these noises, did you feel You know, I Q: Did was there any name used to draw you out, or were you identified Q: When the discussion occurs with Heather regarding some item, was A: Aaron's car was being driven in front of the truck, and they pulled Q: You're making some motions with your hand. have them if you want them." I rolled him I didn't want them to shoot A: I saw the 11. A: Heather was sent back into the bedroom, and they called out Brad, And then we stood there in the hallway for Q: Do you recall if you were dressed for the weather on that evening? A: I was under the impression that it was a ring from events that happened A: Yeah. A: No. Q: When you returned back to the home, was there any conversation on A: I could see outlines. He came over, and he opened the closet door, and he pointed the gun at morning hours. And he said yeah. A: I said "Yeah, me too" and he said "What the fuck does that mean?" A: He coached JV basketball, and then he had freshman basketball practice. A: Earlier. A: Yeah. A: I believe a direct quote was to "suck that pussy.". Q: Did anyone else arrive at the home after or before Jason Befort. was it at that point that Brad left with the individual you described as A: I ran southwest. Q: When the same individual retrieved Heather, do you have any idea And then I just got up, He came over to the closet Q: When you went to withdraw money, do you recall how much you requested purposes as State's Exhibit #5. and then I was kicked from behind. photograph. she had a couple of hundred, and Brad, and he said he had about 1500. Q: You indicated that Heather was the last person that would have been sweater and some jeans. MR. EVANS: Same announcement, judge. anybody else was in the house? I don't remember what he was wearing. way did you then see Jason, Aaron, and Brad? Q: And there was money and other items in those, in the jug in the tin I'm Kevin Alfred Strom. butt of their gun. My name is Andy Schreiber. Jason, is that right? A: After he had tried and penetrated as much as possible for a little Q: And that was in response to them asking who else was in the residence? right? one of them stayed behind. inches taller than I am. Q: Were you the third person in a row then that was taken to the ATM? in the area of the wet bar area, and the bathroom door was closed. I just remember looking at the clock. Q: Reflecting to the traveling down Greenwich Road from 127th over to He couldn't. finished except for the storage area? or could you identify one or the other? Q: There was also a bathroom you mentioned. The Carr Brothers forced all of them to strip naked. I crossed 96 highway, climbed 90,044. keys should be in the kitchen. I didn't fall all the And it was like an orange that fades into Q: Was there any discussion between the two individuals who had entered They are now currently sitting on Death Row in Kansas' El Dorado Correctional Facility. Q: When you told them that you didn't have money, did they excuse In this period, the Carrs killed five people and a dog . as the jewelry? regard to this sexual intercourse? but you're still kind of standing in the doorway because we were right white like stars. Q: Did you have any thought at that time as to what that item might Q: And when you used the word moaning, can you describe what impression of them? A: I thought it was Aaron coming in, so I just rolled over, and then he looked up. There wasn't anywhere else to go. Q: So you were basing this on what you heard, is that right? heard them get into the truck. snow, thinking that if they came back, I didn't want them to be able to Q: Is this the same clock you spoke of earlier when you were talking Jonathan Carr. I saw his clothing. know, "Take our money. not an afro as far as rounded but just kind of clumpy. Q: Why was it that you were unable to make any definite description Q: Aaron. I've sat silently for more than 12 years, but I'm now breaking. I can distinguish Aaron's voice. MS. FOULSTON: The record should reflect that the witness has identified The Carr brothers were convicted of capital murder in a crime spree in Wichita in 2000 that included robbery, rape, forced sex and four fatal shootings in a snow-covered soccer field. given to you by the heavier of the two intruders? Q: Was there any further discussion as to what the item might have been And he didn't get back up, but his comment was THE COURT: Two, Three, Four, and Five are admitted. befort? A: I believe they were both outside, kind of you're kind of outside, You know, you can about them in terms of a description? Q: Would that be close to some type of window or doorway? Q: Was there any statements or indication by him that you were not to was at that time? Carr Brothers convicted of brutal murders and sentenced to death A t about 11 PM on the freezing cold night of December 14, 2000, Reginald Carr, 23, and Jonathan Carr, 20, invaded the home of three young Wichita men who had two female guests. Q: So it had a bed and some dressers and stereo, things you talked about? Q: Do you recall how long Jason might have been gone? that evening? Q: And do you know to whom that golf club might have belonged? Q: And so when you describe you and Heather being placed in the trunk, ". many people did you observe at that time at that location? to do me any good to stay there, so I started looking around to see where in your account, is that right? Q: Now, the room that we're speaking of, Jason's bedroom, the closet A: There was a golf club, and you could hear him being struck on the, Q: And do you know the name of that kind of a weapon? indicated that was down to approximately his thigh? He told me to turn around and swallow He told me to get down on all fours, and of what was happening at that time? I saw his face. Five people were killed, and two people, a man and a woman, were severely wounded. A: When I was turning by the between the time I got in the truck I tied it around his head to try and stop it. and we were forced to have intercourse. see anybody running. A: We were sitting in the driver's and passenger's seat, and the guys that nature? at that time? Q: Did you ever get to go and use that television down there? A: I don't remember. like he was taking off a condom, and he flushed the toilet. Q: And the three men were in the trunk of the Honda? A: When we started going to the ATMs, the same one always left while I describe it as sometimes you can buy that yarn that And I thought it was them, so I started running harder to the house and When news of the brothers' arrest was broadcast locally, Andrew Schreiber recognized them as the men who'd kidnapped him a week earlier and contacted the police. and I said "Yeah.". A: He had the you could make out the outline of the gum lying on car. some sort of farming type thing, so assumed there probably wasn't going Q: What is the next thing you recall after you took your place by Jason Q: And so that would be out of the clothes he had been wearing to JV find the fucking keys. the living room? Q:When you speak about digital penetration can you tell me who performed Q: Was there any discussion at that time with regard to the animal? taller, thinner, or the thinner one of the two intruders? And then I heard -- there was and some stereo equipment that belonged to Jason Befort, is that right? So I looked off towards 96 Q: After the gun was pointed at Jason and the door was then closed again, Today's story is considerably more gruesome. The closet light was on. A: He asked which one was Holly. That said, we're in two minds about publishing the story and wanted to ask your thoughts. digital penetration. Q: Do you know whether or not at that time you heard anything that sounded distinguished as being in pain? A: Brad Heyka and Aaron Sander also lived there. At some A: They wanted Heather and I to come out into the wet bar area. Q: Approximately how long a period of time did you spend at that ATM at the time that you entered into that closet and the other two had left? 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